I thought a strong performance meant we were winning.
It didn’t.
I’ve seen agencies hit incredible ROAS, clean dashboards, “winning” campaigns and still lose the client.
That was the moment it clicked:
Most agencies aren’t underperforming.
They’re just solving the wrong problem.
If you’re somewhere between $0–$3M, this shows up more than you think.
You optimize what’s easy to measure.
You double down on the channels that look the best.
You report numbers that make the work feel justified.
It all feels right at the moment.
But it’s exactly what creates the disconnect.
Because the brand isn’t asking, “Does this look good?”
They’re asking, “Is this actually growing the business?”
And those are two very different things.
In this episode, I sat down with Matt Reminick who spent 20 years on the brand side hiring agencies and we unpacked where this gap really comes from.
Including:
The common optimization mistake that makes ROAS look great but stalls growth
Why agencies and brands often define “success” completely differently
The simple shift that turns clients into long-term partners (and repeat referrals)
And the part I couldn’t ignore:
The best agencies aren’t the ones with better tactics.
They’re the ones who understand what actually matters to the person on the other side of the table and build everything around that.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing good work but still struggling to scale or retain clients, this will hit.
Catch the full episode on The Agency Uplift Podcast
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- Sean
P.S. There’s a moment where we talk about making your main point of contact look like a rockstar internally. It sounds small, but that one shift alone can turn into years of retention if you apply it.